oc_lived_v1d
oc_lived_v1d
Oh fraking hell not this shit again.
Yes you're right, I am making another map, but I AM TRYING on this one, Blues gave me some help setting up the fade thing for the teleporter, and I'd say it's going nicely now.
Now as some of you may know, oc_Lived was a short map, and a similar map, oc_noise was also small. So I thought, why not connect them together? So I did.
Basically, the first part involves you taking a slightly longer way to work because you can't find your car or something.
The Second part involves you going home via your car which is in the car park of the Office area, you only have to get to it and get past the large spider in the way.
Now that you understand, I'm going to post some pictures of the map.
Now, if you remembered the old Lived and Noise, please make some suggestions for me to include in this version.
Current To Do List:
Redo Geography in starter area. (5%)
Table (Done%)
Outside at the end (30%)
Lighting in general (30%)
Constructive Criticism or Go away.
(Also the pictures apart from the one with the Big Momma in are done when I play OC on fullscreen mode, thus making it super huge and ugly.
Yes you're right, I am making another map, but I AM TRYING on this one, Blues gave me some help setting up the fade thing for the teleporter, and I'd say it's going nicely now.
Now as some of you may know, oc_Lived was a short map, and a similar map, oc_noise was also small. So I thought, why not connect them together? So I did.
Basically, the first part involves you taking a slightly longer way to work because you can't find your car or something.
The Second part involves you going home via your car which is in the car park of the Office area, you only have to get to it and get past the large spider in the way.
Now that you understand, I'm going to post some pictures of the map.
Now, if you remembered the old Lived and Noise, please make some suggestions for me to include in this version.
Current To Do List:
Redo Geography in starter area. (5%)
Table (Done%)
Outside at the end (30%)
Lighting in general (30%)
Constructive Criticism or Go away.
(Also the pictures apart from the one with the Big Momma in are done when I play OC on fullscreen mode, thus making it super huge and ugly.
Last edited by Vasili on Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:34 am, edited 2 times in total.
Lighting in the rooms: Ceiling is black, but rooms are lighted = not good
For the lights in the room with the scientists - same thing there, the room should look as if it's lighted by these 2, not by lights without source that don't even reach the ceiling.
Is this a black texture (like toolsblack) or did you only put point_spotlights there for the lighting?
Edit: Okay, this will become a bigger post now.
Room with scientists: You should consider some improvements regarding the table's brushwork. Like this the wooden parts just look like some kind of hunk.
Big Momma: Plain brushes = doesn't look good. Try to use displacements here, your eyes will thank you. You might also add some foliage or grass.
Couch thingies where the soldiers lie: These need to be more detailed. Maybe they should even be models. At least you need wood or metal and a matress there. Now they look like some stone where an old heathen culture would sacrifice people to their gods.
For the lights in the room with the scientists - same thing there, the room should look as if it's lighted by these 2, not by lights without source that don't even reach the ceiling.
Is this a black texture (like toolsblack) or did you only put point_spotlights there for the lighting?
Edit: Okay, this will become a bigger post now.
Room with scientists: You should consider some improvements regarding the table's brushwork. Like this the wooden parts just look like some kind of hunk.
Big Momma: Plain brushes = doesn't look good. Try to use displacements here, your eyes will thank you. You might also add some foliage or grass.
Couch thingies where the soldiers lie: These need to be more detailed. Maybe they should even be models. At least you need wood or metal and a matress there. Now they look like some stone where an old heathen culture would sacrifice people to their gods.
Last edited by Blues on Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:55 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Lighting in everything I do seems to cock up somewhere, but it does do it properly in some other places, but I'm sorting some other stuff out first.
I'll fix the brushwork in there, it was only a placeholder anyway to make room for the teleport area.
That Big Momma Photo is old. the walls of that canyon-ish type place are displacements, I'll add some bushes etc...
I'll fix the brushwork in there, it was only a placeholder anyway to make room for the teleport area.
That Big Momma Photo is old. the walls of that canyon-ish type place are displacements, I'll add some bushes etc...
Again, same thing with the desk, just a place holder.Couch thingies where the soldiers lie: These need to be more detailed. Maybe they should even be models. At least you need wood or metal and a matress there. Now they look like some stone where an old heathen culture would sacrifice people to their gods.
It looks a little leaky, looking at those dark cielings or perhaps its just your lights. Whicheva, V. I've got respect for you so take my critism onboard, decompile a Valve map and look at a light_entity
Yes you can just add a light and not even set any Values but I think you should play abit more with your lights.
see the 50% falloff and 0% falloff and maximum maxdistance? you know how this works right?
Always the start like:
50% Value = say 64
0% Value = say 128
Max Distance = say 256 or 512.
Basically the next Value has to be higher than the previous - Hammer Rule #90001.
As for the rest I like your Ideas. I miss gand and his audience shocking guitar rifts!
Yes you can just add a light and not even set any Values but I think you should play abit more with your lights.
see the 50% falloff and 0% falloff and maximum maxdistance? you know how this works right?
Always the start like:
50% Value = say 64
0% Value = say 128
Max Distance = say 256 or 512.
Basically the next Value has to be higher than the previous - Hammer Rule #90001.
As for the rest I like your Ideas. I miss gand and his audience shocking guitar rifts!
'I would probably smarten up before you meet Violet'.
'She has zero tolerance for idiots'.
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'She has zero tolerance for idiots'.
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Obsidian wiki
Obsidian Map Database
I'm not much of a map maker but let's put it as this. For a room to be lit from a single light source think how shadows and darkness in areas will look.
In your most recent picture you have a ceiling light but the lighting for that area is obviously not from your ceiling light because the walls above your light are too bright.
If it helps try turning a torch to face the ground in a dark room and you will understand what I mean
In your most recent picture you have a ceiling light but the lighting for that area is obviously not from your ceiling light because the walls above your light are too bright.
If it helps try turning a torch to face the ground in a dark room and you will understand what I mean
You should almost never use light entities. Instead use light_spots pointed down.
And try to use light colors that correspond to realistic light values. White is almost never seen in the real world so it looks fake in a map. Give it a yellowish-brown tint or sky blue, but only slightly or it will look fake also.
Surround your map in a cordon box to seal it until you're ready to optimize otherwise the lighting won't work right. If you don't have leaks than ambient light will fill the areas behind the light_spot. If it still looks too dark above/behind the light_spot, then use a light entity in front of the light_spot with the same color but an intensity of 1 or 2.
And try to use light colors that correspond to realistic light values. White is almost never seen in the real world so it looks fake in a map. Give it a yellowish-brown tint or sky blue, but only slightly or it will look fake also.
Surround your map in a cordon box to seal it until you're ready to optimize otherwise the lighting won't work right. If you don't have leaks than ambient light will fill the areas behind the light_spot. If it still looks too dark above/behind the light_spot, then use a light entity in front of the light_spot with the same color but an intensity of 1 or 2.
I disagree with Shiftey a little. If anything you should be using a combination of many.
For one light, there is no harm in having:
light,
light_spot,
point_spotlight,
and throw in an env_sprite for good measure.
Just make sure the flag's No Dynamic Light are checked.
Obviously it depends how and where the light is, and how good you want it to look Vs optimisation.
And yes Vasili the picture is better, just tweak the brightness a bit lower.
Also to improve it and not light up the whole room, tweak the distances the light can reach.
For one light, there is no harm in having:
light,
light_spot,
point_spotlight,
and throw in an env_sprite for good measure.
Just make sure the flag's No Dynamic Light are checked.
Obviously it depends how and where the light is, and how good you want it to look Vs optimisation.
And yes Vasili the picture is better, just tweak the brightness a bit lower.
Also to improve it and not light up the whole room, tweak the distances the light can reach.
'I would probably smarten up before you meet Violet'.
'She has zero tolerance for idiots'.
fug's Obsidian files
fug's Obsidian clips
Obsidian wiki
Obsidian Map Database
'She has zero tolerance for idiots'.
fug's Obsidian files
fug's Obsidian clips
Obsidian wiki
Obsidian Map Database
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